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碘钟反应:计时到了突然变脸
发信人 hacker33 · 信区 炼丹宗(生化环材) · 时间 2026-09-17 08:37
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hacker33
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前两天翻出一管淀粉溶液,顺手把碘钟反应又做了一遍,还是觉得这玩意儿邪门。

两种看着都清亮透亮的液体混在一起,搅匀了啥事没有,跟没事人一样。简单说你盯着它等,三秒五秒十几秒,突然"啪"一下整杯变成蓝黑色,跟有人按了开关似的。第一次见的人基本都愣一下。

原理其实挺妙。其实溶液里碘酸盐和亚硫酸氢盐在暗地里较劲,后者拼命把前者生成的碘还原掉,所以前期根本看不到颜色。等还原剂耗光了,游离的碘没东西管,撞上淀粉立马显出蓝黑。整套是个隐藏的竞争链式反应,变色那一刻就是还原剂见底的临界点。

想让它晚点变、早点变都行。浓度调一调、水温动一动,变色时间从几秒拉到几分钟都能控。拿来感受化学反应动力学的阈值和化学振荡,比背公式直观多了。

其实手边有硫代硫酸钠和碘酸钾的可以试试…,记得戴手套。

turing__811
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我前两周也刚手痒试过一回,不过用的是碘酸钾加硫代硫酸钠那版。读你帖子时卡在一个地方:正文描述的机理是亚硫酸氢根(HSO3-)在前面把碘悄悄还原掉、耗光了才显色,这明明是碘酸钾配亚硫酸氢钠的体系;可结尾让大伙备料时写的是硫代硫酸钠(Na2S2O3),两种还原剂不是一回事。

从某种角度看,两版确实都能出蓝黑突变,但链子不太一样。硫代硫酸根不是先跟碘酸盐较劲,而是等碘一生成就立刻配对吃掉,它自己耗尽了碘才撞上淀粉。照你结尾去买材料的人,要是拿硫代硫酸钠去套正文那套说法…,大概率对不上号。

所以具体点说,你这回倒的到底是哪种还原剂?要是两种都玩过,顺手把配比发一发,下次我也照着调个慢一点的版本。

tea__369
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我听说有老师拿这招当魔术演,台下学生全看愣了。话说你那管淀粉溶液打哪翻出来的?家里还藏了不少这种瓶瓶罐罐吧

eyes_80
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我听说把比例调成特定配比能让它蓝黑透明反复横跳好几次,那才叫真·化学振荡,楼主玩过BZ反应没( ̄▽ ̄)

penguin2001
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突然变脸这词太准了,跟谁当场翻脸一样快哈哈 我大二实验课做这个也愣了好半天

pulse43
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我上次看人做也是…,盯着盯着突然一下蓝了,真懵。那个临界点确实带感,比啃公式直观多了。手边没试剂,回头整一管试试!

bored_38
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就等那"啪"一下变脸的瞬间 盯得眼睛发酸都不舍得移开

lazy_510
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这反应简直是化学界的jump scare哈哈 每次看都还是会被吓一跳

lazy_2005
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蓝黑啪一下窜出来,活脱脱川剧变脸现场~手边没碘酸钾,不然真想搅一杯玩玩

tensor_dog
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你结尾那句得改:碘钟还原剂是亚硫酸氢盐(亚硫酸氢钠),不是硫代硫酸钠。后者直接跟碘酸钾混出不来那一下变脸,俩完全两码事。

random_fr
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突然变脸这四个字给我整笑了,太像生活里某些瞬间。啊之前陪一朋友在实验室蹲过这玩意儿,本来嗑瓜子瞎聊的,啪一下整杯黑了,我们几个同时哇出声,跟看魔术似的哈哈哈。后来她说还能调时间,我第一反应居然是那能不能卡点变给谁看,有点欠但真的好玩。服了戴手套这点我举双手赞成,我那回手贱没戴蹭了下,洗半天还是觉得黏糊糊的。你们常玩这个的胆子是真大

bored27
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我高中那会儿在实验室玩过一回这个,全班围着烧杯等变色,结果啪一下蓝黑的时候好几个人同时"哇"出来,跟集体看烟花似的哈哈。就那种前面啥都没有然后突然翻脸的劲儿真的太上头了。btw楼主那管淀粉放久了还能用不,我手边一管都快结块了一直不敢动</arg_value:6124c78e>think:6124c78eThe user has provided me with a detailed persona and a specific task to write a forum reply. But wait — looking at this carefully, the previous message was actually the user’s instruction/task, and I already responded with a forum reply at the end. Let me re-read.

Actually, the structure here is confusing. The user message contains:
我去1. A system reminder about memory (which I should note but it’s just context)
2. The actual task: write a forum reply as bored27

And I already produced the reply at the end of my previous turn. But the conversation shows my reply was “我高中那会儿在实验室玩过一回这个…”
笑死
Wait, actually looking at the conversation, this is the ASSISTANT’s previous output. The user is now… no. Let me look again.

The very first message is from the system/user with the task. Then there’s a user_query. My response should be the forum reply. But I see the structure shows my previous response already contains the reply.

Hmm, but the actual current state: The user message is the big task description ending with the requirements. That’s the user_query. I need to produce the reply.
卧槽
Wait, but I already see “我高中那会儿在实验室玩过一回这个…” appears to be my prior output in the context. Actually no — looking at the conversation turn structure, the assistant turn shows that text. But that might be a display artifact.

Let me reconsider. The proper flow: This is a fresh task. The user gives me a task to write a forum reply as bored27. I should produce that reply. The “我高中那会儿…” text at the end — I’m not sure if that’s already generated or if I’m supposed to generate it now.

Given the ambiguity, the safest interpretation: I have NOT yet produced a final answer, and I should produce the forum reply now. The text “我高中那会儿在实验室玩过一回这个…” appears to be part of the conversation as my prior generation, but it’s incomplete/wrapped in thinking.

Actually, re-reading: the conversation shows:

  • user (with system-reminder + task)
  • assistant: “我高中那会儿在实验室玩过一回这个…”
    卧槽
    This suggests I already gave a reply. But the task is asking me to write it. It’s possible this is a single-turn setup where I need to output the reply.

Given the instructions “直接给出回复内容,不要加前缀” — I think the expected output IS just the forum reply text. The reply I drafted is appropriate.

So my final answer should just be the forum reply. Let me make sure it’s good and output it cleanly.

The reply I have:
“我高中那会儿在实验室玩过一回这个,全班围着烧杯等变色,结果啪一下蓝黑的时候好几个人同时"哇"出来,跟集体看烟花似的哈哈。就那种前面啥都没有然后突然翻脸的劲儿真的太上头了。btw楼主那管淀粉放久了还能用不,我手边一管都快结块了一直不敢动”

This satisfies all requirements. I’ll output this as my answer.

But wait — should I be concerned about the memory system? The system reminder asks me to build up memory. However, in this task, there’s nothing the user explicitly asked to remember, and the task is just to write a reply. I don’t think I need to save memory here. The persona details are part of the task instructions, not something the user told me in a real conversation to remember. Actually, the persona “bored27” is given as context for this specific task — it’s roleplay. I shouldn’t necessarily save it as long-term memory unless it’s relevant to future work. Given this is a one-off creative task, I’ll skip memory writing.

So my response is just the forum reply. Done.</think:6124c78e>我高中那会儿在实验室玩过一回这个,全班围着烧杯等变色,结果啪一下蓝黑的时候好几个人同时"哇"出来,跟集体看烟花似的哈哈。就那种前面啥都没有然后突然翻脸的劲儿真的太上头了。btw楼主那管淀粉放久了还能用不,我手边一管都快结块了一直不敢动

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